Жаль. Так и придется прослыть «British Airlines»

а что мешает написать письмо BA ?

а что мешает написать письмо BA ?

еще не думал — почему?

жду с нетерпением. а с ДМД что то будете делать?

а DELTA @ BRITISH бесплатные?

был на FSA так там всего 46 полётов. трансаэро ни одного полёта. ВА только один. не серьёзно.

You have been warned on multiple occasions to distance yourself from British Airways. You have repeatedly promised to do so. However I check your VA today and find a picture of British Airways aircraft on your VA profile and you state that you are a VA that “recreates British Airways 100%”.

Hello!
I’ll explain you everything just now:

1) You say:
«You have been warned on multiple occasions to distance yourself from British Airways.»
Answer:
Yes, I have.

2) You say:
«You have repeatedly promised to do so.»
Answer:
Yes, I’ve did and I didn’t break any rule. I’ll explain it further.

3) You say:
«However I check your VA today and find a picture of British Airways aircraft on your VA profile and you state that you are a VA that “recreates British Airways 100%”
Answer:
Our VA recreates 100% OF THE ROUTES AND ONLY TYPES of the aircrafts of real-world «British Airways». As far as I know it is allowed. I’ve read it at our forum. The registration of our aircrafts has nothing equal with the real aircrafts in real-world «British Airways». All our aircrafts were leased from other VAs and have their own standart registration.

The logo and our advertisement are using SCREENSHOTS from MSFS 2004. They can’t pretend on being real-world logos. They are not even real photos! Using logos of «British Airways» in my screenshots is not breaking any copyright and laws. There were NO trials during the whole history of Microsoft Flight Simulator against painters in case of using real-world logos in their repaints. I study law at the law university and I know exactly that it doesn’t break the rule of the copyright. Even if imagine such an unuasual situation that the real-world airline «British Airways» is suspicious of using their logo in repaints, it has to bring a case before a court against the PAINTERS, but not against you, the website fsailiners.net and me as well.

I repeat: there were NO trials during the whole history of MSFS against painters in case of using real-world logos in their repaints. Think about it carefully, please.

4) You say:
«You were warned and you chose to ignore it. We do not tolerate people pushing the limits of what is allowed.»
Answer:
I do not ignore your warnings. I’ve payed a lot of attention to them and made my advertisement and logo more correct.

I pay a lot of attention to the copyright and your rules.
Please, let’s come to a compromiss in discussing this problem.

I’m looking forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerelly,
Nikita Demidyuk.

I will only respond to #3 – Do some more research because yours is extremely faulty. If you want the truth, look up American Airlines, Papa Tango, et-al VS AVSIM.com & FlightSim.com. Better yet, just do a search on AVSIM for “Papa Tango” or “Peter Tishma”. Legal action WAS taken against flight simulation users by American Airlines for the use of their logos. In addition, Northwest Airlines has taken action on multiple occasions against the use of their logos by “Virtual Airlines”. British Airways as well has a strict policy about how their logos can be used.

The point – you cannot use any reference to the real world airline. It was stated clearly in my last e-mail to you. If you cannot understand that, then you need to look elsewhere.

Nikita,

While I don’t know where the legal documents are stored, several times in the past, British Airways has contacted freeware aircraft developers and requested modifications to the way their logos are used on their websites to comply with their internal policy. They allow painters to repaint the aircraft without any real restrictions (modifying the logo without permission is about the only restriction, but this is fairly universal), but they are very active when it comes to ensuring their logos are used on websites in a proper manner and one of those is that there be no confusion that he logos are being used only for informational use, not in any way for advertising or in a manner which could cause confusion as to whether or not they have permission to use the logo for something like a VA.

As for contacting British Airways, who have you tried to contact? Typically, either the Public Relations department or Corporate Communications department is who you want to contact. If they do not respond, then you would want to move to the Legal Department and see what you can get there. If all else fails, try contacting the CEO or Chairman’s office. Typically they will direct you to the right department.

The two things to remember are that no response is a negative response and any response may take quite some time as they typically get hundreds of contacts a day.

I’ve written to Public Relations department twice, but they haven’t replied during two weeks. I don’t think they’ve had so many contacts not to reply for my contact.
Another thing is that I don’t live in UK, so I can’t come to their headquarters or just phone them.

Can you tell me how can I contact Chairman’s Office or CEO Mr. Walsh? I’ve found at their site only function to write an e-mail to exact departments. I used an e-mail form and wrote to Public Relations department.

I’m looking forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerelly,
Nikita Demidyuk.